Dexter Students Question Editorial Cartoon in High School Newspaper
A group of International Baccalaureate students say a cartoon published in The Squall promotes bullying.
A recent Dexter student newspaper cartoon depicting one student beating up another is causing administration to work more closely with the newspaper editorial board to discuss future editorial cartoons.
The cartoon accompanied an unsigned editorial, published in the Nov. 16 edition of The Squall, addressing the newspaper staff's concerns with the district's implementation of an IB program, which they argue funnels thousands of dollars away from other programs in the district, including Advanced Placement (AP) classes.
"This year, 49 students are enrolled within the IB program, 26 of which are diploma candidates. Those 26 students are undoubtedly intelligent and thinking about their futures. But ultimately IB is not worth it. Not worth the cost, not worth separating students, and not worth the possibility of the district not being able to pay for other programs down the road, due to high costs associated with IB," the staff writes.
Paige Bartkowiak, a student enrolled in the IB program, said the editorial casts the IB program in a negative light and pits AP students against IB students. Bartkowiak said she was particularly disturbed by the factual errors in the editorial, and a stick-figure cartoon with two students labeled "AP" and "IB" fighting.
"At one point AP was a new way of teaching and there was opposition. IB is a new way of teaching and people need to have open minds about change," she said. "The article said IB was anti-American just because it was founded in Europe. There are many things founded in other countries and we adopt them into American culture. If the excuse of anti-American is used, that is suggesting that as Americans, we are so close-minded and solely focused on ourselves, which is a problem in itself."
Bartkowiak said since the editorial was published, some students have been afraid to come to school because they fear they could be physically and verbally abused.
"No child should have this fear," she said.
Avery Gordon, another student enrolled in the IB program, also took exception to the editorial.
"I would like to see statements well researched, clarified, and corrected. I am of the opinion the editorial cartoon depicted violence (one student fighting another)," she said "(If) there is no 'environment of bullying at DHS,' I question why the editorial cartoon showed such."
Editorializing IB versus AP
Cameron LaFontaine, co-editor of The Squall said the newspaper's editorial was not meant to incite violence among high school students.
"A lot of us feel like IB demands a lot of money and a lot of attention from basically everyone. Some of that attention could be given to AP students," LaFontaine said. "I don't disagree with what IB is trying to do, but I also feel you need to add more resources to what other students are trying to accomplish."
Addressing concerns about the editorial cartoon, Levy Kipke, co-editor of The Squall, said the stick figure drawings are meant to be an abstract concept and should not be taken literally.
"What we're saying is the AP program is trumping the IB program, not one student dominating another," he said.
DHS adviser Rod Sattherwaite said stick figure drawings to represent issues at the high school are nothing new.
"In our last issue, we talked about semester versus trimesters and we had one stick figure labeled as Dexter High School, with semesters falling down on him," Sattherwaite said.
LaFontaine said he encourages any student upset with the editorial to contact the Squall and discuss their concerns with the staff.
"We encourage other students to express their opinion; we don't discriminate," he said. "In any situation where you are concerned about what's printed, you should come to the source first and talk to us, so we can clear up any misconceptions."
DHS Principal Kit Moran said he plans to speak to the editorial board about the cartoon.
"My goal is to react purposefully," Moran said. "I feel for all my kids. We want to work through what happened.
Moran said he supports an administrative hands-off approach to student media, but also understands the concerns of some parents and students in the IB program.
"It's a balancing act for sure," he said. "I respect the newspaper's right to publish, but we have to make sure we don't damage other students ... in that process.
"What standards were used to judge the cartoon? Did they consider their audience?," Moran asked. "I think The Squall should continue to cover issues relevant to the school. I think we need to look at what they intended to do (with the cartoon), step back, and determine if it could've been handled better."
Implementing IB
Similar to Advanced Placement (AP) classes, the IB program is described as "an academically challenging program for students ages 16 to 19."
According to Superintendent Mary Marshall, Dexter accepted its first group of students into the program this year, with 10 IB classes, at a cost of roughly $140,000.
That number will decrease to $75,000 in the 2013-2014 academic year, due to a full-time coordinator of the program changing to a half-time position.
"Several years ago, we as a district decided we needed more rigorous courses at the high school,” Moran told Ann Arbor.com. “We decided to go down the path of IB as opposed to adding a bunch more traditional AP classes. … We liked the instruction, thought it was a little more appropriate and integrated … part of our district strategic plan is to have our students have a world view and IB classes have a world view.”
The high school currently offers six AP classes with several sections catering to more than 100 students,
Marshall said the district does not maintain AP specific budget line items in the general fund budget. The cost of the program includes the cost of training, and a stipend paid to teachers who teach AP classes, although the stipend is being phased out at the end of the 2014-2015 academic year. In 2011-2012, the AP stipends amounted to roughly $43,000. In 2012-2013, the stipends reduced to $27,123.
The district also covers the cost of AP exams that students cannot afford, however most students who choose to take an AP exam pay for the cost of the assessment ($89), Marshall said.
The district will offer nine more IB classes beginning in 2013.
Moran said the addition of the IB classes is due to increased interest in the program. Already 20 students have informed the district of their intent to enroll in the IB program during the 2013-2014 academic year.
Students can enroll in a combination of AP and IB classes, or enroll to take different AP classes online that the school does not offer in a physical classroom, Moran said.
"It's about adding more choices for our students," he said.
Mark S
11:41 am on Friday, December 7, 2012
I have a hard time believing that students are afraid to go to school based on a cartoon. That said, just because something is in cartoon form does not mean that real feelings and hostility aren't behind it.
This is not the first time a school newspaper cartoon caused a controversy. Here's an Ithaca "stick figure" lawsuit that lasted over 6 years and cost in excess of a million dollars when the student editors sued the school for not letting them publish or distribute the cartoon.
"In their February 2005 Valentine’s Day edition, the students planned to run an article titled, “How is sex being taught in our health classes?”
Along with the article, the student editors were set to run a satirical cartoon, which depicted a teacher standing in front of a chalkboard that displayed eight stick figures in various sexual positions.
After [officials reviewed] the newspaper, the students were told that the cartoon violated the standard for obscenity set forth by the new guidelines. They were not permitted to run it." That's when the trouble started.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/stick-figures-unquestionably-lewd
Pat
11:41 am on Friday, December 7, 2012
You're kidding, right? This is bullying?
Dexter resident
12:22 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012
The IB program is a waste of taxpayer money.
Jim Vollmers
1:15 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012
I understand that the cartoon may offend some individuals and that is a subject that should be addressed. The subject matter that it addresses will continue to be an object of speculation and discussion for some time in Dexter.
The IB program is an expensive and ill-advised option for the Dexter Public Schools.
With a WISD IB program already in place, those that desired this type of instruction already had an option to do so. The school board has diverted sorely needed funds from serving a large segment of the school population with AP options, to serving a few.
The AP program is more widely accepted by US colleges and universities and can be as challenging as IB with far less cost involved. At this point we have dedicated some $322,000 over 3 years to serve 26 diploma candidates. I suspect that the other 23 currently enrolled students probably took the IB classes because there were no AP classes available for that subject matter. In order to fill the empty seats in the IB classes, our school board has decided to invite up to 20 out-of-district students to fill those vacancies
On the other hand, the 6 AP classes that are offered are attended by 100 Dexter students. I believe that an effort to expand upon the existing AP format would have been met with much greater success and enthusiasm and at a much more reasonable cost than the IB program.
It appears that the cart has been put before the horse on this effort.
Shawn Letwin
1:41 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012
Kudos to Moran in taking the reasonable approach in stepping back!
As I step back, I separate the one article into two parts: content of the article (major) and the cartoon itself (minor).
Amongst all of the fingerpointing and tongue wagging about the cartoon, the IB supporters seem to be using the cartoon as a deflection to the real issue that the editorial brings up. Sounds like real world politics and posturing by our future leaders.
The point of the aritcle is what is written, not the graphic. With that said, were there other graphics that could have been used such as:
-a long line of freshman kids at the 3 counselors offices (with a fourth door boarded over) and they are holding tickets that allude to them not being seen until the 10th grade as the 26 kids in IB are shown getting onto a bus for the special one week of camp at the beginning of the year.
-or a line of kids at the athletic practice facilities waiting while a delivery truck delivers a load of brand new books for the IB program.
-or IB students looking at a menu board with a gazillion choices to schedule and the AP menu showing just 6 choices
-or the adminstration and board changing their speech to fit the audience and crossing out budget figures stated in the past to much smaller numbers.
*Looking at the adjusted budget for 2010-11 adopted in 11/2010, $241,000 was approved for IB expenses.
-or an IB kid could be sending a tweet that says "IB=I am better and AP=average person.
Webster01
8:31 pm on Saturday, December 8, 2012
I read this article in the squall (thesquall.com), as well as the article about IB classes on page 5. The other article had quotes from IB teachers and students. I thought that between the 2 articles, the student editors had done a pretty good job of balanced reporting on the topic. If the editors had really been trying to wield their power over other students, as comments here seem to suggest, I don't think the the other article would have made it to print.
I also have a hard time seeing how this cartoon could be construed as bullying, unless everything that might be slightly in poor taste is now considered bullying. These kids on the staff are students and therefore still learning.
Valerie
8:31 pm on Saturday, December 8, 2012
Can someone explain these two programs, their differences and who's elegiable to be in either program? What programs do the average kids get to join? IB and AP sound like it's for the more gifted students and why do they need two programs? I haven't been to high school in a long time and would appreciate it if someone would elaborate, thanks!
Dexter Mom
8:30 pm on Saturday, December 8, 2012
{Quoted from above}: "Bartkowiak said since the editorial was published, some students have been afraid to come to school because they fear they could be physically and verbally abused.
"No child should have this fear," she said." {End Quote}.
Many Special Ed kids at Dexter Schools definitely have this fear. I personally know of 7 that have left in the last 5 years because of it. The sports programs are full of bullying and hazing issues. I know of 2 current high achieving students who are receiving medical treatments for emotional distress as a result of bullying at Dexter.
Kyle Worthy
9:43 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012
Hazing occurs everywhere in the world and to try and take that out of sports programs would be outrageous. You can't just end something that boys naturally do, and as for the kids leaving, other factors could have played a role. Can't pin hazing as the sole reason. Wassup
Roger Moore
9:44 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Alright, listen here you muppet. I am a student at DHS and I have never seen a case of bullying towards any of the special ed kids. Where do ya get off in your lie ridden plague of lobbying for IB? Don't try and fool me or anyone. I'm on the inside here, not you. Report only true accounts, not lies.
Cheers
Dexter Mom
8:30 pm on Saturday, December 8, 2012
{Quote from article} "Avery Gordon, another student enrolled in the IB program, also took exception to the editorial."I would like to see statements well researched, clarified, and corrected. I am of the opinion the editorial cartoon depicted violence (one student fighting another)," she said "(If) there is no 'environment of bullying at DHS,' I question why the editorial cartoon showed such."{End Quote}
Violence in school, whether in a cartoon or sports field is wrong. The amount of spending on these IB programs is out of proportion to the amount of money which should be spent on special programs and classes for mainstreamed students with emotional impairments and learning disabilities. The AP and IB students will survive, but there are students who are being denied an IEP which would give them access to special classes, therapies, and training programs because the district is already beyond budget in Special Ed. programs. The extra funds for those kids mean the difference in graduating and going to post secondary education programs or failing and dropping out of the system. Over 26 students left the district this year. Why? My point is; why is so much money being spent on the smartest brightest student programs and the ones who could really use the help are being denied services?
Laura Jones
8:13 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012
I am surprised to hear anyone has been denied an IEP due to funding in Dexter and frankly would be very surprised since it is not legal to do so. An IEP is a legal grant of status, not based on funding, but on students need for an IEP based on established criteria. Not having funding is simply not a valid reason. That said, it is possible to have disagreement over a child meeting or not meeting criteria, but there are 3rd party processes available to remedy that.
If you feel your child, or someone you know feels their child, has been improperly denied an IEP you should appeal it and also contact local county educational system and perhaps an educational lawyer if you have professionals who support your claim for services.
Jim Vollmers
9:30 am on Monday, December 10, 2012
Excellent commentary, Laura.
Narp Vader
12:14 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012
Haha - my take on this is that AP supporters have a serious case of sour grapes. The kids are channeling what they hear from the adults around them. IB is rigorous and has the advantage of being "global" and that scares the heck out of people, because global is foreign, possibly socialist, which is anti-God, anti-Christian, and PRO-ABORTION! Here comes the local tea-party, demanding that this heresy (aka rigorous, internationally recognized curriculum) be driven out of your schools. Your kids dont want any more AP classes, you do! On the flipside, any IB student afraid to come to school because of this cartoon should read more Diary of a Wimpy Kid. The stick figures turn out OK in those books (or so I'm told). P.S. The cartoon is crap, and if the student who drew it ever took an art class, they should be forced to take it again.
Kyle Worthy
9:43 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012
You're one to talk about bullying? You're insulting a kid for his drawing. Lemme break this down for you Vader. You're a middle aged man who is critiquing a child's drawing instead of getting a job and making a difference in this world. Ya know what I think? I think you are just a pretentious blogger who thinks bullying is bad and is too blind to see what's right in front of them. You're the bully. Reevaluate yourself mate. Cheers.
P.S. Mike has a great point
Dexter Mom
9:30 am on Monday, December 10, 2012
Laura, Dexter schools have a limit on what percentage of students can be given full funding from the state, after they reach that percentage maximum and corresponding numbers of fully funded individually education planned students, they can still grant an IEP for additional students but will not get any additional funds from the State to provide accomodations, so the same Pie has to be cut into smaller pieces for each special services child. This has been happening for quite a while because Dexter just HAS more kids that qualify to some reason. In order to keep the money going toward the severely impaired the milder cases are mainstreamed resulting in some bullying, teasing, etc. of kids who are misunderstood and trying their hardest to make it in an environment that is not friendly for them. Could be why we have had 2 Directors of Special Education Services resign in the last 10 years. And yes, I know of several parents who've had to use the assistance of an attorney to get services that should have been granted easily.
Mary Marshall
1:44 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012
I know this response is off topic to the article, but the details provided above about special education need some clarification. If anyone has a question about special education services, please feel free to call your child's school and ask. We are happy to provide information about eligibility and the process for determining if special education services are warranted.
Special education funding is need based, not fixed annually, so we never make decisions to provide services, or not, based on the fact that we have a fixed budget. Decisions are always based on what the IEP team determines is best for the child within the parameters of the law and eligibility requirements.
No student who receives special education support required or utilized an attorney to obtain those supports.
It is true we have had families move to our community because we provide excellent special education services, but our overall special education percentages are among the lowest in the county.
Our Special Education Director happily retired last year after six years of wonderful service so she could spend time with her grandchild. The only other Special Education Director resignation we had in the last ten years was due to the director moving out of state because of a spouse's business opportunity.
Please contact us if we can provide any additional information regarding Special Education or any other service.
Dexter Mom
11:10 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012
Mary, I am sorry but we paid an attorney for our child's IEP meetings. You were not there although you were an administrator then too. We have a principal on tape during a private meeting as saying that financial issues are a problem in Special Ed. We also had to go outside the school an obtain our own testing at great expense to us because the School psychologist and evaluation team did such a poor job. There were whole test pages that were skipped by the administrator and not counted in the total scoring. The testing instructions were not followed on the first page, the teacher consultant doing the testing did not meet the familiarity, (9 months or more), criteria for filling out evaluation information about the student, etc. and I could go on. The school did not tell us that is was our right to receive an outside evaluation at school expense if we disagreed with the in school results.This happened whether you were in the meetings or not, and they greatly influenced how our child was accommodated. The former director of special education is not retired she is working for WISD now and much happier there.
DCS needs overhaul
9:29 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Yep what she said! ^^
Dexter Mom
11:10 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012
It is very disturbing to me to see written that there is no bullying in the Dexter Schools when our child was so badly bullyed in many different grades, and that there were never lawyers involved in IEP meetings, that the principal didn't admit to the lack of adequate funding in special Ed. for the high numbers that were enrolled. Every classroom in the mainstream kids has 4 or 5 kids with an IEP and that does not count the severely impaired in special classrooms.
Sounds like the Departments don't tell each other what is going on. Maybe because they don't feel that they want or need want them to know? Your overall students receiving special services is over 12% whereas the state norm is 10%.
Laura Jones
9:09 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
I appreciate the potential problems with special education funding and IEP's and your disagreement over figures on services. We had our own problems with the special education process a few years ago at Wylie, but were able to resolve them.
None of that, however, has anything to do with IB funding or AP classes, which is the topic of the article. Perhaps a further look at special education in Dexter by the Dexter Patch is in order?
DCS needs overhaul
9:29 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Dexter Patch when are we going to talk special education at Dexter? There is a lot that can be learned from the multitude of issues that all sides face.
Shawn Letwin
11:08 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
The Patch articles' topic is very narrow in and of itself-bullying.
The Squall article topic about AP and IB is centered around funding.
What I did not see the Squall article addressing was the loss of funding for the general population and the effects on those who have no forum to speak up for themselves. Instead we read about AP and IB sqaubbling amongst each other.
Some commenters have taken to this forum to address their experiences at a very fundamental level. I for one welcome the additional information and dialogue because I doubt we will see any in-depth articles about this; cause there have been none on any other Dexter schools issues.
With Dexter 20% above the average for IEP's in the state; that is inexcusable!,
Remember that the statistics include data from Detroit, Pontiac, Flint, and other socio-economically challenged regions. Dexter is not a socio-economically challenged district and yet we are above the average for IEP's!
Thank you Dexter Mom for speaking up for those who cannot defend themselves nor secure for themselves what they are rightfully entitled to as we read about the conflict between the IB and AP students- gifted students bullying each other and fighting over limited financial resources that they think they should have for themselves.
The Dexter Difference!
Laura Jones
8:44 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Shawn, if you want to have a serious debate about special education in Dexter, I am all for it, but this is not it. There are no facts presented with any attributable sourcing. One could easily say that Dexter have a 20% (if this is correct, there is no attribution or citation) higher rate of IEP's is ample evidence our process must be quite sympathetic to granting IEP's in comparison to other districts, which would disagree with the point being made by Dexter Mom. What your remark about the rate means with respect to the socio-economic status of the district escapes me. What has one to do with the other? The need for IEP's certainly has no economic component.
More to the point, the additional dollars may or may not be needed for special education or may or may not be better spent on AP classes - there doesn't seem to be enough information available. Certainly no indication that the dollars could or would be available to be spent on anything else was given. Seems to make a discussion on allocation difficult.
Shawn Letwin
12:36 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Laura, as quoted from Education.com..."RELATIONS BETWEEN SCHOOL OUTCOMES AND SCHOOL SES (SocioEconomic Status)
Schools in low SES neighborhoods tend to have fewer resources. Their students, beginning school with little preparation, require an educational system with a more skillful and focused approach. However, the teachers in the low SES schools are often less paid and less trained than the teachers in the higher SES schools. The results are low achievement rates for the students. Few high school students in the low SES schools plan to attend college; therefore, the graduation rate is low.
One of the big problems in school for children of low SES is the self-fulfilling prophecy of failure. If the children do not dress well or are too shy, the teacher may not feel they are very bright. The teacher will call on these students less often and not regularly engage them in class discussion. These students are then left feeling as if they do not belong in school and as if they do not have hope of doing well. If learned helplessness builds in the students' self-concept, they will look for experiences that confirm this self-concept. This process is especially strong if the students are from an ethnic minority and face discrimination."
Dexter is not a low SES district.
Yes, IEP's have a very definite economic component to them. I recently spent 4 years subbing in 13 different districts and saw/dealt with IEP's directly enough to understand. Enjoy, take care and be well
Laura Jones
1:38 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Shawn, you are mixing apples and oranges. School outcomes and IEP's. Your point is about school outcomes as a factor of SES, not IEP's. IEP's are provided for children who have disabilities. SES is not a disability.
I dont know why we have more kids with IEP's in Dexter, but my own guess would be that the outstanding services provided by the school district for kids on the autism spectrum has something to do with it. The district has done really well for these kids. Autism has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with SES.
I am a real advocate of the Dexter Difference for these kids and the benefit it has made for them, at least in K-8. A high rate of IEP's is no indication that the district is doing anything wrong, in fact, I would say it is exactly the opposite.
DCS needs overhaul
9:29 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
"I dont know why we have more kids with IEP's in Dexter, but my own guess would be that the outstanding services provided by the school district for kids on the autism spectrum has something to do with it."
From what I have a seen and in talking with other parents, Dexter does not do well with kids on the spectrum - especially those with Aspergers. There is a reason those families had to go elsewhere. Those kids are walking targets and it is painful to watch.
Laura Jones
10:35 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
That is exactly the opposite of what we have experienced and what I have heard from other Aspie parents in K-6. I know the lower grades see people coming here for the high quality services for Aspie kids. I cannot say enough good things about how well K-6 Special Ed has done by our son. I am sorry if it has not been the same experience for you. Is your bad experience at the HS level?
DCS needs overhaul
11:00 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Actually our experience was wonderful until 4th grade. Then it was downhill from there. I cannot say enough good things about K-3 in Dexter! 5th grade wasn't that bad either but we still had bumps in the road as there will always be. A huge part of having a succesful year is finding a good fit between teacher and individual child. I realize teachers are overworked and have too many kids per classroom. I could also go on and on about the lack of funding and how they continue to cut services or share social workers between schools when the data clearly shows that many of the IEPs involve emotional impairment, aspies, etc. Then there is the whole "specials" and how those kids with IEPs need the extra academic support but cannot get it during "specials classes", rather they pull them out of core academic classes to get the support. We can only hope that things improve in the higher grades but I'm finding that as kids get older, they get meaner which leads to more bullying, more issues, etc. I dread middle school and high school. If there is no improvment I will have to send my child elsewhere. Dexter really needs to address the issue of special ed kids that are targeted and bullied. Stop denying it and face the problem head on. Yes it involves difficult conversations with probably emotionally charged parents but that is what needs to happen.
Laura Jones
12:34 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
DCS - I would be very interested in speaking with you more about this issue. We have a 6th grader with ASD and are nervous about the next years. I am thinking of putting together a parents Meet Up group in Dexter specifically to talk about special education in Dexter from the parents perspective. My though is that together, we can learn more and make more effective cases for changes our kids need. I also know parents of kids who have been through the DHS system and had very bad experiences, so I believe there is cause for concern.
Would you have an interest in such a group? I was think of once every 2 weeks meeting at the Pub or Aubrees.
DCS needs overhaul
9:23 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
@Laura - I am very interested in meeting and forming a group or finding one that is already established. Perhaps the Dexter Patch would allow us to advertise such meeting? Also, if DCS says it takes the problem so seriously would they be willing to post notice of meeting in the email newsletters? There is a PAC rep listed on the WISD website. I'm going to send an email to see if there is established group that already meets. I haven't seen anything and have a family member who has been in the district for many years and have only heard of the PAC rep, no group. I'll let you know what I find out.
Laura Jones
11:32 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
@DCS - sounds great! If they do not have one, we can set one up through MeetUp.com. They have an on line tool for creating an open group that meets in person - and it's searchable on line by people. I have used them before and its quite good. I know of quite a few ASD families in the school district I can mention it to as well. I look forward to hearing back from you. My email is ljones@chartermi.net
Dexter Mom
11:08 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
The topic point is that Dexter Schools does not need hundreds of thousands of dollars poured yearly into an additional IB program for students who will do just fine in college. My daughter only had AP classes and started in a DIV 1 top tier college with 27 credits transfer from Dexter High, then started as a sophomore in college.
I apologize for the lengthy comments. I am very passionate about the subject and Dexter is badly in need of that scale of funding for Special Education Services in order to accommodate the unusually large numbers of kids who are high functioning, high testing, (but still legitimately in need of multiple services), in order to survive high school. The school would also be better off taking that same IB money and researching why so many students have left Dexter before graduating and addressing those issues for the real life version of "No Child Left Behind".
Snowy Day
9:41 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
We left Dexter because we had a high functioning high testing child. In all the IEP meetings I couldn't seem to make them understand that just because my child was able to meet the Michigan standards didn't mean they didn't have a disability and need services. However I think the entire state of Michigan needs to reevaluate how they determine eligibility special services. It should be determined by is the child performing to his own average not to the Michigan standards. They way Dexter explained to me a child who is meeting Michigan Standards cannot have a disability that affects his schooling. That is very flawed thinking. The state we lived in previously determined IEP eligibility by the child's average.
Also Dexter needs to remember to meet all students potential. That includes giving opportunity's for gifted, average and special needs to be challenged and not bored in school. Which would include starting in the elementary school and not waiting till high school to give more advance students work to challenge and engage them.
Laura Jones
1:38 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
I agree that it would be great if education could be personalized to meet each child's needs. I don't see that happening in an era where our society places it at the bottom of our priority list. We blame teachers for our kids problems and our economic woes and pay them less than most developed nations (currently #27 in pay). We hold teachers in some of the least amount of esteem of developed nations, we demand less hours and lesser outcomes than other nations as well.
IEP's however, are not just about meeting grade expectations, but about the disability of the child. It is possible to have a child with disabilities, meeting grade level, with other issues that need to be (and are) addressed through an IEP. The IEP is part of IDEA (Individuals with disabilities education act) which means it is not at all about kids reaching their potentials, but about access to education for children with disabilities and accommodation of their disabilities within a public school. Without the disability classification in place, and IEP request will never move forward. With it in place, it then becomes about the disability manifestations at school - which are the only things that can be addressed. It's all about working within the law, which can be tricky.
Daniel Lai
9:43 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
These are all interesting comments. I'll continue to try and get some more information.
DCS needs overhaul
9:29 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Please Mr. Lai it is time to expose the special education issues within DCS. I have spent years and thousands of dollars in medical bills for my child because of the teasing/mocking (DCS will not define it as bullying) he receives. I have included MM in so many emails and she can't be bothered to acknowledge them or address the issue. Dexter Mom is 100% correct. Unless you bring in lawyers or file state and federal complaints, this district will not serve the needs of children who test well yet socially are destroyed each and every day. I have the facebook screen shots showing the relentless mocking/teasing/bullying. It's disgusting what my child has had to go through. I am also aware of several families who had to pull their special needs kids from the district. We could be next as well. No one should have to endure what these kids do on a daily basis. With MM out the door bring the issue to light. Let the public see what is really going on behind the school doors that they are desperately trying to keep hidden.
Dexter Mom
1:38 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Snowy Day, so sorry you had a difficult experience and I applaud your decision to leave Dexter rather than continue the daunting fight for your student's accommodations.
However, it is the right time to examine and change things here in Dexter for those that can't leave right now. Providing the appropriate education for kids like yours and mine is what our tax $$ should be going toward. Ultimately that lowers the costs of State services for the group of adults who fail in school, can't find adequate paying employment. and ultimately end up on Gov't Assistance Programs. I'd really like to see the AP and IB students get school credit for volunteering to help all IEP students who are the real victims of the above mentioned bullying issues here in Dexter. Setting that example of caring and change would be an enormous real life lesson for the AP an IB students and for the Community of Dexter as well..
Don Darnell
11:51 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
I think people are far too sensitive. Basically, there are three methods of conflict resolution: (1) diplomacy; (2) third party mediator (judicial, for example); and (3) violence. Preferably in that order. At some point, you need to know how to fight. Its wrong to punish kids for an illustration of the last step.
Dexter Mom
1:33 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
No one is being punished for the illustration Don. Mr. Moran said, "I think we need to look at what they intended to do (with the cartoon), step back, and determine if it could've been handled better." This is a discussion of how to handle it differently. Mr. Sattherwaite is likely quite pleased with the journalism student illustrator in that a simple stick figure cartoon has generated this much thought and commentary on the article published in the Squall. Just remember that, "bullys pick on those that are different." says Child Psychologist Dr.David Walsh. Whether those kids are special needs, AP/IB, or 3rd string athletes; the schools, and parents have an obligation to keep the students safe. ncpc.org/topics/cyberbullying and http://drdavewalsh.com/
Laura Jones
7:10 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
Graphic hyperbole. Not bullying of any sort. Opinion and bullying are not at all the same thing.
Daniel Lai
9:31 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
DCS needs overhaul, are you and other parents willing to go ON THE RECORD about your bullying issues? We've been trying to touch base with parents who are willing to talk to us with concrete information.
DCS needs overhaul
10:35 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
I will go on record but I will not give my students name or information that would identify him/her. His/her life is already difficult enough at school so I do not wish to inflict or cause anymore harm. I just want my kid to understand that what is happening to them is the very definition of bullying. The victims usually will not defend themselves because they do face more bullying. Social media is horrible and I do understand the school cannot control it. However we as parents and a community can. Teaching our kids that just because so and so looks normal doesn't mean their brain doesn't process things differently. There are some great kids out there that do stick up for my kid but the bad outweight the good. We need to teach all kids tolerance, respect, acceptance and understanding.
Nick's Mom
11:00 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Daniel Lei - this is why the district will remain ignorant, sweeping what they know to be the TRUTH under the rug. It is a further victimization of the victims and their families by expecting them to go "on the record". Even our court systems allow children victims of sexual/physical abuse to be anonymous. But, for some reason, the School District would expect a child & their families to put themselves out there PUBLICALLY for a type of abuse that is JUST as detrimental to a child's physical/mental well being?
Laura Jones
11:32 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
I would be willing to go on the record. Our experience is only K-6 for special education, but we have had one child go K-12 as well, though not in special education. I hope more parents will if this is a large issue at DHS.
DCS's point about social media, is, I think, a key one. School districts in some states have been taking action on social media posts, as violations of their code of conduct. As well, some posts are made during school hours, which gives them jurisdiction. It is my own opinion that publicly outing social media bullying is necessary to fix it. It has to start with parents. Every parent is sure their child is not a media bully, when in fact every parent should wonder, and be checking.
The events in South Hadley, MA should have put all parents on notice that it is their responsibility to be checking what their child is posting and how they are behaving. Not one parent of the perpetrators in that case suspected their child was acting in such atrocious ways. Almost all those kids now have criminal records (and deservedly so). Most lost any chance at a bright future. If you care just about your own kids, it's worth checking and stopping since their future is also at risk, even if you think it's "normal behavior". It is now criminal behavior and actionable.
DCS - get a lawyer. Sue the parents of the kids who are doing this - I would.
DCS needs overhaul
11:59 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
@Laura Jones
If I had the extra money to get a lawyer I would. You are dead on about social media. Per stopbullying.gov there are federal and state laws that do support intervention with cyberbullying whether during school hours or not. The information I found on a website that I had banned and had blocks in place to prevent, was disgusting. Kids are part of secret groups that are not visable on a profile. The parent would need the childs username and password to go through the account to see what is really happening. There you will find the most disgusting hateful behavior demonstrated. I sat up for nights looking through it all in shock. I had no idea kids were this cruel to each other. Again, there were a few that stood up and said "hey no more, kid is hurting enough" but they are relentless and think it's funny. Nothing about it is funny. When I brought this to the attention of the school I was originally told nothing could be done. Then I was told I needed to bring in information but they would not give me the policy on cyberbullying stating it was not public. If I turn in the information my kid will face the consquences of telling on the kids who did this. If life is already difficult at school how will outing those help? It's a huge problem that I'm not sure anyone knows how to address.
Laura Jones
12:40 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
This topic - social media bullying - is one of the topics I would like to get a Dexter ASD-Parents group together to discuss. I know it reaches more than the ASD community, but I think it hits us especially hard.
I have a meeting to attend next week at Mill Creek for incoming 7th graders. I will publicly ask for a copy of the policy on social media bullying. If they want to turn me down in front of all the other parents, I guess they can.
As far as affording an attorney, if you really think the situation is bad, I would contact a big name who likes publicity - they sometimes will take a very, very reduced fee or work on contingency. Start with Jeff Fieger - he is obnoxious but awfully smart as well. (248) 355-5555 Just what I do, anyway.
DCS needs overhaul
1:57 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
@Laura I will also be at the meeting. Although I still haven't decided if my student will return to DCS. I'm sure someone at DCS will read this and alert them to quickly draft a copy for parents. Whatever. I used to put a lot of trust into this district but no more. They like to operate behind closed doors with no transparency or respect for special needs students and all they have to endure. School is hard enough for kids. It's a 1000x worse for those with disabilities.
Curious does Dexter have a parents of special needs group that works with WISD and DCS? I know we have a PAC rep but wondered if there was an actual group. I'd be interested in meeting with other parents to figure out how to get our kids through school knowing the social barriers they face.
Laura Jones
2:15 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
@DCS. Well hopefully we at least get a copy of the policy out of it all. I have found that a velvet hammer works best in Dexter. Most people we have encountered have been excellent. We met a few that were simply horrendous and it took a small war to get things sorted out - but they did get sorted.
The counselor at Creekside mentioned to me about a training class at WISD - START. It's all about autism education. She is taking the class next Tuesday & had reccomended it to me. It's free and at their location in AA. I believe START is the new model for ASD in Dexter and WISD. I will be taking the full series as well.
I am not aware of any group for parents of ASD kids or special ed kids in the district, or even in the WISD, which is why I want to try an develop one. Too many people seem to have serious issues with the Dexter schools and I think a group voice is more powerful than a single one. It would give people a lot more credibility with the School Board and the various school administrations. I am not worried so much about them reading this - or getting advance notice of anything. If it forces change, then it's good enough for me. As much as I would like to see a select few punished heartily, I find I have to ignore them and focus on getting the services or policy and ignore the people problems. On an individual level, the aids and teachers have been great. It'a been administrative qualification issues for us.
Nick's Mom
10:40 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
PAC is a group, and should be offering meetings at least monthly. It seems to me that this would be a good tool to utilize, as they are in direct discussions at all times with their local ISD's as collaborative partners. I am suprised that WISD doesn't have a file or list of support groups available through their website?Granted, I no longer live in the district - but when my son attended, there were several parent groups.
A true campaign of education of parents is essential. We must move away from the "kids will be kids" mentality. This is not the same world most of us grew up in. Social media is a HUGE part of it, along with prolonged desensitization of children towards violence via the internet, video games, movies, etc., compounded by the need of children feeling more & more pressure to make their mark on the world by doing something extraordinary. If they can't do it through other means, sometimes negative works just as well - and their negative experiences in school can lead to the ever more increasing outlashes in society as we've seen in the last few years. Bullying is the 1 common denominator in all recent issues reported on the news. Granted, they blamed ASD when the individuals involved had REALLY either a personality disorder, or a dual diagnosis - but in the end, it doesn't matter. Any child, pushed hard enough, long enough, may be capable in this day & age of lashing out - even the *neurotypicals*. We must address it, or it will only get worse.
Shawn Letwin
11:32 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
"..trying to touch base with parents.." How, when and where? And one is made this way?
Your use of "caps" is inflammatory. Demands of concrete information from parents of kids who are bullied is insulting to this reader and close to bullying in and of itself.
You strongly question the integrity and intent of the dissatisfied parents, but leave "softballs" for the admin and board to base their quotes in the Patch on.
Cobler responds to a report about Dexter ranked at the 30th percentile for schools that adds value "... Dexter is providing value greater than what one would expect. I think that is a positive position to be in," Cobler said.
No concrete information. Why?
Value greater than one would expect. Dexter is in a positive position. Really?
-30th percentile in value?
-50th percentile in the nation for PACT scores
-20th percentile in the state for academic achievement?
-short one high school counselor
-5% of student population is homeless
-spending money on a duplicate IB program for 1% of the student population
-hired several Superintendents (MM just left mid-year...wow!)
-cutting budgets by millions, but not reducing expenses by the same amount
-go to 1 bus run and not accepting drivers plan to cut required $ to keep 2 runs
-raise pay to play
-spend 1M to repair a 6yr HS
-Mill Creek top 10%-achievement gap
- k-2, 3-4, 4-5 elementary set-up
-semester/trimester debacle
-$700K class scheduling inefficiencies
-expand admin size
Dexter Mom
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Shawn, while I thoroughly agree that DCS needs an overhaul, the Patch link to the article about homeless student numbers states that these are estimates, so I'm not sure you can jump to the conclusion that 5% of students in DCS are homeless. The chart says 162 per 2011/2012,\. Is this possibly as a result of the tornado displacement of families?
http://www.annarbor.com/news/schools-adjust-to-serve-provide-transportation-for-growing-number-of-homeless-students/ States that:
"According to a national indicator, districts should have a homeless student population equal to 10 percent of their free and reduced-price lunch population."
Daniel Lai
11:44 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Hi Shawn,
I don't agree with your statement here:
"You strongly question the integrity and intent of the dissatisfied parents, but leave "softballs" for the admin and board to base their quotes in the Patch on."
I believe the parents expressing their information here all have valid points and I intend to follow up with their concerns. As always, thanks for the added information as well.
DCS needs overhaul
12:10 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
I appreciate you allowing us to voice our concerns! I was worried you wouldn't allow the comments to go through. Another online news source heavily moderates comments but I won't go there.
Daniel Lai
12:28 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Hi DCS needs overhaul,
The comments are very insightful and informative on this thread. I'd also like to meet with you privately in the future if that is something you feel comfortable with. Please email me privately at daniel.lai@patch.com. Thank you, and keep posting your thoughts on this topic. I think it's important to let other people hear parents' concerns.
DCS needs overhaul
2:03 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
It would also be great if some sort of round table of the sorts could be scheduled. There are many parents facing the same issues and if we could compile a list or data of the most pressing issues that face these kids, then as a group we might be able to get something done. In my own personal dealings with DCS they really don't act until many others are involved. Sad but true.
Rob D'Oria
10:40 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Apologies for the length of my comment.
We had our own special education services experience with our 2nd child last year at Creekside. He's been diagnosed, after being very thoroughly tested more than once, with Asperger's. He's very socially akward and has some issues with executive functions, but he's a great kid, super-smart & creative, and one of the funniest people I know...he gets most of that from me. :D
We moved to Dexter from Ann Arbor shortly after the 2009-2010 school year ended. While our special ed experience in Dexter was poor, it was in many ways a step up from A2...they worked real hard trying to figure out how not to do anything instead of putting that energy towards helping.
He had a great year in 4th grade at Wylie, but did not transition well to Creekside. He started the year with a substitute teacher for approximately the 1st two months and it was a disaster. His social akwardness was deemed a behavorial problem and he was isolated from the rest of the class and placed in the corner like a potted plant. Neither the substitute teacher or any of his other teachers informed us of his behavior and academic problems. We found out about 6 weeks into the school year when we were contacted by the school's counselor after she "stumbled upon him while in the class to observe another student". The weeks and months that followed proved to be very disturbing and frustrating while we did everything we could to get him the services he needed...
DCS needs overhaul
9:27 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
This makes me so sad. Our troublesome transition was 3rd grade. Wylie didn't want to heed the advice and information from Bates even after the wonderful staff at Bates spent a lot of time communicating the information. I know because I knew it would be an issue since kids like this typically struggle with big changes in routine. Thankfully our 3rd grade teacher was wonderful and always took the time to listen. 4th grade was a completely different story. The biggest bully in the classroom was the teacher. I was asked to meet with her and the "team" the first or second week of school. The teacher directed the meeting repeatedly talking over the social worker who knew my child very well. Rather than shut her mouth and listen she proceeded to inform me that my childs problem was not what he was diagnosed as and that I should seek treatment, even hospitalization if necessary because he was emotionally disturbed. Even the social worker gave the teacher the side eye knowing she went too far. Fast forward another student in class with some special needs is also having trouble. Parents observe classroom (mom is teacher) and found that teacher was rude, condescending and would openly call out those kids with social issues knowing they would struggle, then would sit and mock them for not paying attention. The principal was notified by this parent, she was also notified by me but refused to do anything about it.
DCS needs overhaul
9:27 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
We also heard that child was behaviorally disturbed from teacher who also apparently held a MD, PhD in child psych and refused to believe that a neuro-bio disorder could be the result. Principal refused to move child out of classroom even at the recommendation of the medical professionals sighting that it would set "precedence" for other kids who just don't get along with teacher. Because it couldn't possibly be the teacher just lacks the ability to work with kids and special needs.
Rob D'Oria
10:40 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Meeting after meeting with a growing number of people, some that were helpful and sincere while others that were ridiculously inept and political. The inept ones would talk about a week of training they got on Autism spectrum disorders or make the process about them (...social worker said she thought our child was just horrible...she seriously said that) or when asked if they could do more they say "yes, but the law doesn't require us to". We went as far as hiring an advocate (can provide contact info if anyone wants it)...way better (and cheaper) than a lawyer. She helped us get the IEP he needed, but in the end a combination of unwillingness and inability to execute the plan led us to withdraw him from DCS. The final straw for us was him being called a bully and us being asked to sign a behavior contract. We home-schooled him for the remainder of the year and then enrolled him in a public school in September. He is flourishing...he loves to go to school again, has made many friends, got invited to his 1st b-day party, and is doing very well academically. And while we couldn't be happier about his progress, our hearts go out to the kids and families that don't have the resources to get the help they need...
Rob D'Oria
10:40 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Until we decide as a society that it's important to us how we treat children (really all people) with special needs there will never be a public school (DCS or other) that will have all the resources it needs to fully help these kids and their families. That being said, there is no doubt that DCS can do more with the resources they do have...starting with a can do attitude.
Shawn Letwin
10:40 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Is bullying a learned behavior?
Yes it is, according to the National Association of School Psychologists. Aggressors, therefore, should not be looked upon as the devil incarnate; rather, they are children who learned anti-social behavior at home, in school, or elsewhere in their social environment.
So are our kids learning to be bullies at school, or are they learning to be psychological bullies at home?
Having suffered extreme bullying myself from Dexter parents throughout the years (relational aggression; via relationships to directly or indirectly manipulate and hurt me and my family)...certainly didn't see the schools openly promoting bullying.
How can it be unlearned at the schools when teachers themselves are victims of the bully's? Just look at the most recent example last year when all of the students (the brightest/best) who were participating in "Survivor" after school were sent home abruptly after allegedly using bullying tactics against a teacher. Tactics that allegedly were inappropriate contact, inappropriate demands and taking school keys away; whereby causing the teacher to allegedly seek safety in a classroom that needed to be locked to keep the students out. Although suspensions were initially given to a few involved, the suspensions were completely revoked and the teacher’s allegations were left undefended.
If we cannot protect our teachers, then good luck stopping kid on kid bullying.
The Dexter Difference
Al Woods
3:57 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
"Aggressors, therefore, should not be looked upon as the devil incarnate; rather, they are children who learned anti-social behavior at home, in school, or elsewhere in their social environment. "
--So, by this logic, every criminal learned to be a criminal somewhere, be it from mom and dad, the school, or the neighborhood. Should they not be punished either? Or maybe the shopkeeper should be punished as well.
"Having suffered extreme bullying myself from Dexter parents throughout the years (relational aggression; via relationships to directly or indirectly manipulate and hurt me and my family)...certainly didn't see the schools openly promoting bullying."
--Hmmmmmm. Give us an example. When has your daughter come home in a suicidal state because the administration suspended her for defending herself after being attacked by a bully? How much have you spent on counseling and services to get your child the help they need, only to be told by DCS that they "don't have to provide it"?
The issue starts at the school board that has allowed bullying to continue, and goes right down to the teachers you claim are also bullied. Sorry, not buying it. How did those students get the keys from the teacher, and if they had the keys, how'd the teacher lock herself in a class room. Need keys to operate a lock. Unless my sub par education at Dexter has, once again, failed me.
Barbara Read
10:40 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
I don't know that you will find the complete policy here and you won't see any copies of draft policies, but you can read the current policies on bullying and on the use of wireless devices (e.g., cell phones) on the school website. In fact, you can browse all the school policies regarding many topics.
The actual policy won't give me a direct link to share, but go here: http://www.neola.com/dexter-mi/ then in the left column enter the search term "bullying." The first policy listed (1) is bullying and under that you will find the wireless policy (5).
Nick's Mom
6:52 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
The policy, as written, is grossly inept and does not take into account that bullying, especially ongoing relentless verbal abuse, has more long term consequence, and is much more far reaching, than physical assault. In cases of physical assault, the aggressors can be expelled permanently, or at least removed from the general population, forced to take classes seperately from their peers. Why should bullies be treated any differently?
DCS needs overhaul
9:27 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
I've read the policy many times. As Nick's mom said - the policy is inept and very broad. It can be interpreted in a multitude of ways depending on the circumstance, which is what I have witnessed over the years. The schools seem to think that just because the victim is smiling when the peers are saying "dumbo" or stupid, moron, weirdo, psycho, cry-baby, etc., the victims couldn't possibly be bullied or upset because they were smiling and laughing. They are smiling and laughing because that is the only way they can get through the day. If they make a big deal about it the perpetrators gets in trouble and then it becomes even more of a problem. Therefore most of these kids go years accepting what is being said to them as just "joking" or "normal" when it is in fact the very definition of bullying. If go back to when these kids started school together you will send the trend over the years. As the behavior becomes more obvious in later years the bullying becomes more harsh. These kids walk through life being constantly mocked of their disability whether it be EI, ASD, ADHD, etc.
Laura Jones
9:23 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
I am surprised that anyone would be taking that kind of attitude in today's society - it is irresponsible and flies in the face of what we know are dire potential consequences of ignoring bullying or passing it off as normal. It also opens some legal liability for the school district and therefore for us all since we would ultimately end up paying for any judgments against the district.
I can say that our own family experienced several incidences of our son being bullied both verbally and physically at Creekside. In both cases the school reacted strongly and appropriately. We discovered what was happening in one case and reported it to them and in the other, it was discovered by them and reported to us. We thought the responses at all levels were good - and in the one case there was a very good resolution possible between the aggressor and our son that has turned the situation into a positive one for both parties. Both times it was very clear that the administration had a strong position on the behavior and was moving to both stop it and create a change for both kids. I would expect the same for all kids in each school. Why is this not consistent??
Barbara Reed - this is something the Board of Ed has a duty to investigate and act on in order to protect both the students in our district and our financial liability. I hope you can open some doors on this subject district wide. It is obviously a serious problem may exist.
Dexter Mom
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Barbara, here is the law regardless of the DCS school policy which took effect Dec 6th, 2011:
Here is a summary of the law from http://dexter.patch.com/articles/snyder-signs-anti-bullying-bill
Gov. Rick Snyder signed a bill Tuesday that gives school districts six months to develop "clear anti-bullying policies" that are required to be in place by the beginning of the next school year.
“This legislation sends a clear message that bullying is wrong in all its forms and will not be tolerated,” Snyder said in a news release. “No child should feel intimidated or afraid to come to school.”
Districts have to hold a public hearing on the policy. Those districts that already have a policy that complies with the law — such as the Hartland School District in Livingston County — must submit a copy to the Michigan Department of Education within 60 days since the law took immediate effect with Snyder's signature.
A previous Senate version originally attracted national attention because critics said it provided an exception for bullies who have "a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction." But a house version that didn't have that language won out. It also didn't clearly protect students who could be bullied because of sexual orientation or gender identity.
Continued below in next blog.........
Dexter Mom
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Under the new law, the policies must at least include:
"A statement prohibiting bullying of a pupil.
A statement prohibiting retaliation or false accusation against a target of bullying, a witness, or another person with reliable information about an act of bullying.
A provision indicating that all pupils are protected under the policy and that bullying is equally prohibited without regard to its subject matter or motivating animus.
The identification by job title of school officials responsible for ensuring that the policy is implemented.
A statement describing how the policy is to be publicized.
A procedure for providing notification to the parent or legal guardian of a victim of bullying and the parent or legal guardian of a perpetrator of the bullying.
A procedure for reporting an act of bullying.
A procedure for prompt investigation of a report of violation of the policy or a related complaint, identifying either the principal or the principal’s designee as the person responsible for the investigation.
A procedure for each public school to document any prohibited incident that is reported and a procedure to report all verified incidents of bullying and the resulting consequences, including discipline and referrals, to the board of the school district or intermediate school district or board of directors of the public school academy on an annual basis."
Continued below in another blog.......
Dexter Mom
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
These 3 blogs are taken from the law as written and signed into effect 12-6-2011. In addition, the new law states that the legislature encourages the following:
"Provisions to form bullying prevention task forces, programs, teen courts, and other initiatives involving school staff, pupils, school clubs or other student groups, administrators, volunteers, parents, law enforcement, community members, and other stakeholders.
A requirement for annual training for administrators, school employees, and volunteers who have significant contact with pupils on preventing, identifying, responding to, and reporting incidents of bullying.
A requirement for educational programs for pupils and parents on preventing, identifying, responding to, and reporting incidents of bullying and cyberbullying."
I wonder how much of this has actually been done with the Dexter Staff and pupils?
DCS needs overhaul
8:38 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"Both times it was very clear that the administration had a strong position on the behavior and was moving to both stop it and create a change for both kids. I would expect the same for all kids in each school. Why is this not consistent??"
Speaking from my own experience I believe the district labels and profile certain kids. By profiling I mean looking at the family structure; who is there and who isn't, and whether or not the family has the means or even time to pursue legal action. Then there is the influence of other families. I have been told that parents have asked administration what is wrong with my child and that they have explained it is confidential. Why aren't those parents contacting me to ask? Why, because they wrongfully judge and assume the child is raised by inept uninvolved parents. I remember one dad saying to me “your kid is really funny and not what I expected.” That pretty much confirmed the judgmental elitist attitude that surrounds this very issue. It is plain ignorance. People who don’t understand or know anything about special needs act uncomfortable and don’t want their kids around them. God forbid precious catch autism or bi-polar disorder. Until we fix the stigma surrounding these issues this is always going to a problem. With a population of so many over educated individuals I’m actually rather surprised by it all.
Laura Jones
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I know the schools are hobbled by privacy laws regarding students. If your child has a disorder that makes them appear odd to to others sometimes - as ours does - the school cannot say anything to anyone about it. Makes explaining the behavior of a child to non staff very difficult I think, especially when they look normal. We have struggled for years with how to deal with this issue and have come down on the side of "knowledge is power" and are 100% open about his condition now. Our son has been through extensive training on what his disability is, both the physiology of it and the effects for him. He has a "speech" that he can rattle off about himself, which he developed from this training. He self identifies to others what he has and how it affects him and what people may need to know. He actually came up with this all on his own in 3rd grade when the class required each kid to present something about themselves and he stood up and told everyone "I have Asperger's Syndrome" and went on to describe it and its effects. No one knew it was coming, not us, nor his teacher. Everyone was floored. The teacher reported immediate changes in the behavior of the class towards him and the effects seem to be lasting. His openness continues. I have now seen his classmates chide their parents for looking at him oddly at times. I pray it lasts. He has had problems, but he also has a lot of kids who get that he is simply different and moved on from that a long time ago.
Laura Jones
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
cont... I know that is not an answer to the problem dealing with the administration, but I hope it provides some light on one way to deal with the issue that has worked for one family. I don't know how else a person can deal with getting around the privacy laws - they are completely inflexible. We were led to this solution by our son, who found it empowering to be able to self identify what he see's (rightly) as his strengths and weaknesses and a huge part of who he is. He essentially took a MAC truck to the privacy barrier and rolled over it from the only side that can legally let it down. We have simply followed him and tried to support his decision.
DCS needs overhaul
2:31 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"We have struggled for years with how to deal with this issue and have come down on the side of "knowledge is power" and are 100% open about his condition now. Our son has been through extensive training on what his disability is, both the physiology of it and the effects for him."
I think it is wonderful that your son was able to do that and received support! Bravo. Sadly, different diagnosis, different reactions, opinions, judgments, etc. Due to the number of over diagnosed and over medicated kids ADHD is no longer taken seriously. Combine ADHD with possible EI issues and you are immediately faced with judgment and negativity. Kids refer to those socially different or fragile as "psycho, cry-baby, etc". It's hard to tell your kid otherwise when the media and society has done nothing but turn a blind eye to mental illness or disorders, along with perpetuating horrible stereotypes. I could preach all day long. Point is people are ignorant and horribly cruel to those who face adversity from diagnoses that doctors are still debating over. If we can’t be 100% sure what is going on until child is adult we can’t expect kids or other adults to understand it.
Shawn Letwin
10:40 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Is bullying a learned behavior?
Yes it is, according to the National Association of School Psychologists. Aggressors, therefore, should not be looked upon as the devil incarnate; rather, they are children who learned anti-social behavior at home, in school, or elsewhere in their social environment.
So are our kids learning to be bullies at school, or are they learning to be psychological bullies at home?
Dexter Mom
2:31 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Laura, that is exactly what I am talking about for the school wide Special Kids Awareness Week. For those who wish to be open and empowered by the knowledge that they give to others around them, it can work to dramatically decrease the side effects of bullying and ignorance. You have a wise young man there, he could be a leader in helping others who are perhaps not as confident or trained in how to let others know of the difficulties they live with. If these bullies are learning bad behavior, whether at school or at home, then let's take on the challenge to teach them good behavior and lasting friendships. How do we get the school to cooperate? How do we get the principal of Mill Creek to call the school counselor instead of the police, as happened to us when our son 's frustrations turned into a meltdown, and the school wanted to scare him? (On a side note, we found that the police were shocked at their being outside of the knowledge loop and embarrassed that they were adding to the obvious distress of a child in crisis. Those are the bullying tactics carried out by the Dexter Administration's Principal who had sat in on several IEP meetings detailing those accomodations, expectations, and recommendations which were ignored by the substitute teachers. That's when we first started using a special ed. lawyer to make sure the IEP was drawn up and carried out . And that is also when they lost the first of 2 Sp. Ed. Directors, who left to go to a better school district.
Laura Jones
5:08 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Dexter Mom - I am stunned. I am stunned and furious. I cannot believe someone at Mill Creek thought that was an appropriate way to deal with the situation. They should have been removed.
It brings up yet another point, however. Our kids are at great risk when made in interact with law enforcement. I have spoken with people at the Sheriff's department and they have actually taken training on how to deal with kids on the spectrum who has melt downs. They would also like to work more closely with the schools but are shut out. Several of their officers have kids with ASD, so it comes from a place of concern and not wanting to get it wrong or add to what they know are already difficult situations. I am really surprised at the schools not wanting to open their doors and create a program with these kids so they can have positive interactions with the police. Situations can arise where their disabilities can place them at real risk and if the adults who are supposed to help protect them and facilitate abdicate their jobs (or actually call the police) where police interaction occurs. If the police do not know the situation of the kid or are not advised (or don't care), then things can go badly. I think we could also make an after school program with the Sheriff for SE kids. It could be very positive for everyone. Just a thought.
One question - is the Mill Creek person who called the police still there?
George Eliot
8:28 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
A young man with special needs walked into a school, presumably in the midst of some kind of "meltdown", in Newtown, Connecticut. The ensuing encounter with law enforcement did not go well for the young man. Are you actually advocating that a better outcome would have resulted if the school administration would have called a counselor instead of the police???
My point here is that school administrators make decisions about the safety of all the students in their school, every day, and they might pay with their lives. You seem ready to demand the removal of a school administrator based on a statement from one anonymous commentor here, whose comment could be as far from the truth as possible and you wouldn't know the difference.
Laura Jones
9:51 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I have edited out my initial rude remarks, George Elliot, but your remarks are infuriating. Let's just deal with the facts and your misstatements:
1. The "boy" you refer to was actually a 20 year adult. We are discussing middle school kids who are 11-14. This alone is enough to make your entire comment moot, but lets continue.
2. Adam Lanza was not a student under the care, control, guidance and protection of the school. We are speaking about special needs students, with legal IEP's in place, documented special needs which can include melt downs, and the most assuredly are under the care of the school. The school has trained personnel - namely school counselors at a minimum, who know how to deal with the various needs of these kids. The police are not part of that group, but in this case, it seems the police had better training and knew an inappropriate request when it was presented.
3. Adam Lanza was not having a melt down, Melt downs are the loss of the ability to remain calm and in control of your emotions, often in the face of a situation too overwhelming (sensory overload, too much input, etc.) . They present with a lot of crying, shrieking or high pitched speaking while trying to keep crying, can include collapsing on the floor, yelling, sometimes with a lot of arm waving and pacing. Adam Lanza acting in a very calm and calculated manner. That was no melt down. Not even close. No valid comparison here either.
Laura Jones
10:41 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
3. Adam Lanza never had an encounter with Law Enforcement. He was finished and committed suicide before they entered the building. So whatever analogy you were trying to draw is lost here too.
4. The child we were discussing was not presenting a threat. So why call the police? Why call the police before calling a counselor or 911 for an ambulance? Several of the local police have kids on the spectrum - they also know what is worth being called for, this is not it.
So even if we forgive the complete lack of relevance of your analogy and simply go to your main point, the protection of all students, you have nothing to stand on. No students were being threatened.
What your post does convey is the position of a large part of our society about what is appropriate care of those with disabilities. When they need care, let's call the police. Even though statistics tell us that these kids are far less likely to be violent criminals that typical children, in raw numbers and as percentages. That's sad and misguided.
I appreciate that what happened in Newtown is horrific - in fact one of the children killed was an ASD child, found dead in the arms of his teacher. Correlating that event with this is similar to correlating Tim McVeigh with white male boys from divorced families who are only children. There are similar but no causality. It's an empty correlation.
Dexter Mom
10:41 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
George, " Are you actually advocating that a better outcome would have resulted if the school administration would have called a counselor instead of the police???" In our case - YES. Our ASD kid did not have a weapon, and no teacher was ever threatened. No one in Dexter Schools has "paid with their lives" except the ASD kids who will never be the same after suffering the abuse and bullying that is allowed to go on in this town's schools. Laura, yes, the persons who called the law in are still in charge of your kids as administrative employees of Dexter Schools. George the young man in Conn. was not a student of the school or a member of the classrooms there. Having severe mental illness and violently targeting a school is WAY different than being an ASD member of a class as a fully supported IEP kid who is struggling to fit in with a bunch of aggressive neurotypical kids that are taught to bully anyone who acts different. My anonymous comments are the truth and I have miles of paperwork to prove it. I have to remain anonymous because when Dexter settled on a resolution payment to my son, out of court, I had to sign papers of non disclosure, but only for the incident involving the Special Education Services. Our family can actually be sued if we disclose to anyone what really happened.
DCS needs overhaul
11:43 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
“I have to remain anonymous because when Dexter settled on a resolution payment to my son, out of court, I had to sign papers of non disclosure, but only for the incident involving the Special Education Services. Our family can actually be sued if we disclose to anyone what really happened.”
This blows my mind. How can this district be so irresponsible? I can’t believe with everything you have been through they haven’t done more to prevent this from happening again. Rather they continue to cut services and split special ed staff across many schools. How can they effectively provide the needs of these kids if they are expected to work in multiple schools? Seriously DCS? This is the best you can do with all those degrees and millions of dollars for special education that you receive? How about instead of turning a BLIND eye to the issue you face it front and center. You are located in a state with many Research Institutes/Universities; why not tap into those resources? I know some initiatives with UM and bullying have taken place however one event per year is not enough. It’s the special needs kids that are faced with discipline and threats of suspension or expulsion when they reach their breaking point and either verbally or physically act out towards those that have tormented them for years. The tormenters and bullies walk around free to do it time and time again.
George Eliot
9:55 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
@ Laura, I'm sorry. My intentions were certainly not to infuriate. I thought it seemed as though you were being a bit hasty in judging the Mill Creek Administration without having verifiable facts. I have had interaction with administration at Mill Creek related to a 7th grade student who was very close to adulthood in physical size. My oldest child was afraid of this boy, with very good reason, and the administration needed to make decisions based on the safety of the majority of students.
Also, I applaud the efforts of the parents commenting on here who are actually making suggestions and putting in effort to improve the situation for bullied children in Dexter. I do not have children with special needs myself, but my youngest daughter has been in class for two consecutive years with the same boy who does. The first of these years, it really bothered her that classmates would intentionally try to get him frustrated because they thought his reactions were 'funny'. My daughter said that she tried to help him with some of the school work, in her words "explaining things calmly so he wouldn't lose his patience." Her classroom teacher did confirm this to me and said that her behavior toward this boy was a huge help in the classroom throughout the year....
George Eliot
9:57 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
... (cont'd) Her second year of class with this boy started with an outside expert talking to the entire class about Aspberger's syndrome. I assume the boys parents must have allowed that, and it made for a much better classroom experience and not just for the boy himself. I think my daughter is better person, and is more patient and respectful with all of her classmates, because of her experiences these two years.
If there are more things that other parents and "non-special needs" kids can be doing to improve the situation, please find a way to educate us as well. Even if this can't be done through the schools, other places like the District Library may be an option.
Dexter Mom
11:06 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
"If there are more things that other parents and "non-special needs" kids can be doing to improve the situation, please find a way to educate us as well. Even if this can't be done through the schools, other places like the District Library may be an option."
Thanks George Eliot for understanding and God Bless your daughter for helping. A library meeting would be a great way to facilitate a discussion on positive changes for special ed. kids in the schools. In the mean time, please have your daughter tell a couple friends to also help somebody and ask those couple friends to ask a couple more to help, etc. If we could get some boys involved too that would be awesome.
Laura Jones
11:31 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
George Elliot. I appreciate the sincerity of your reply. It's a parents nightmare when any ASD person commits a crime because the "all of them" label comes out, and the reality is they tend more to be on the receiving end of violence. It pushes all the work done to advance them in society back again.
I appreciate that there are instances, as you mention, where a child who is physically threatening must be removed. In fact, if it were my own child who was threatening others, we would request it ourselves. No one wants to see anyones child get hurt. We also do not want to see anyone try to "scare" perceived bad behavior out of our kids by using the police, when it is not a controllable behavior or simple bad actions on their part. As your daughter (wisely) discovered, the result of sensory overload and too much input is predictable to an extent, and not within the full control of the ASD kid - it's why the provocation is repeated. The result is rote. Police cannot "scare" it out of someone with ASD - it would be like asking them to scare you into better ability to compute 3D mathematics in your head. You get the opposite result. It's a bizare move on the part of someone in education to attempt.
Laura Jones
11:31 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I think it's interesting to read your tale of your daughter and the boy with Aspergers. We have noted that our own son's year in class have often found him with little girls who are masterful at facilitating peace and understanding. It must be a gift they are born with. I cannot tell you the level of gratitude we have for these girls. They cast disparaging looks at tormentors, have told some to "sit down and shut it", been a friendly smile when stress is rising and someone to carry on a conversation with when no one else is interested in listening. Please tell your daughter from this parent that she is brilliant. It takes great courage to stand up in the face of others tormenting and risk it being turned on yourself. I admire her courage. You must be very proud to have such a daughter.
I am hopeful that at some point here Dexter schools will avail itself of the programs that exist for spreading the awareness of special needs people and for preventing bullying behavior. It is a cultural change that has to begin at the top, and requires a willingness to commit some time to these programs. So far, its been a dead end, but perseverance is the key to any success!
Dexter Mom
12:04 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Laura, I'm confused, what does this, "all of them label coming out", mean? " It's a parents nightmare when any ASD person commits a crime because the "all of them" label comes out"
Laura Jones
10:04 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Dexter Mom: "All of them" is a label we hear often when an ASD person does something negative. As in "all of those ASD people" are violent, mentally ill, destructive, or something else negative. Even though the statistics show that it's not true, people are scared of what they don't understand and seem to want to label an entire community sometimes.
DCS needs overhaul
10:54 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
@ Laura Jones - were you still going to schedule a group of Dexter special needs parents on Meetup.com? Looking forward to meeting up with other parents to share ideas or ways to best help these kids get through the school years.
Laura Jones
2:46 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
It's scheduled! 1st meeting of the Special Education Advocates in Dexter will be Tuesday 1/29 at 7 pm! The meeting is informal. Once we have a head count, we will book a table. The meeting page is here: http://www.meetup.com/Dexter-Spec-Ed-Advocates/ It's free to join meetup.com - I covered the cost of starting the group page. I am really looking forward to meeting other parents. Hope to see many of the posters here attend!
Daniel Lai
9:44 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
If a meeting is organized, I would be happy to include a notice on Patch to garner interest from the public or families with similar problems that they want addressed.
Dexter Mom
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Thank you Daniel.
DCS needs overhaul
11:32 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
I think the attitude stems from the stimga surrounding mental illness, ASD issues or behavioral problems. The complete ignorance I have seen with some parents and even some DCS staff is very difficult. How can they understand it if they don't live with it. They don't see how these kids have to work 1000x harder just to function and make it through the day let alone face the reality of social media and the fact that some kids are just down right mean. I wish it were easier for them and that there would be easy solutions to these problems but there isn't.
Al Woods
3:57 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
As a recent DHS graduate (2010), and a special needs student myself, I think a lot of people aren't seeing whats going on here. The article pointed toward kids being afraid to go to school, which is undoubtedly true. Now, everyone has seemed to think this is because of the cartoon, and it's not. The Dexter administration has not only allowed the bullying environment to continue through the years, they have in many ways encouraged it to the point of abuse. Telling students (specifically football players) that they are "above the rules" has given them a very difficult road after high school. Most graduates of Dexter that played football do not finish college. On the other side of that coin, because the administration is (to less fault then you would think, zero tolerance laws make it this way) powerless to punish the aggressor in a situation, it harbors an environment where a bully can do what they want, and a person being bullied can not stand up for themselves. They can't go to a teacher and get help because until any physical altercation the bully hasn't "done anything wrong". I'm speaking from experience here, and I can tell you that the cartoon has nothing to do with why these kids are afraid to come to school.
Now, as for the IB AP debate. It's all a moot point. In Michigan our laws state that, just as consortium is required to be offered by the school, so are IB classes. Don't like it? Elect different politicians in 2 years.
DCS needs overhaul
4:27 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Hi DHS graduate! I'm very interested in hearing about your experience. Would you say the issue got worse throughout the years or problematic all the way around? Do you think kids are afraid of school because of the bullies? Hmmmm. I was going to make a comment about football and the culture and a specific person, but I won't go there. Most people can connect the dots. I also feel that administration can only do so much. Either they won't accept that the problem is going on or they keep it at bay long enough for the kids to move onto the next school making it someone elses problem. Dexter changes schools just about every 2 years K-8 so how can they really address the individual needs of each student? I'm starting to figure out why so many families left and advised us that the problem is not going to get better.
Laura Jones
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Al - the article drew the link between the cartoon and kids being afraid, which most people here do not accept either. I agree with your position - being afraid to go to school has much more to do with actual bullying behavior.
No one is above the rules and any administration that treats a group as above the rules should rethink their position. As I said before, this type of acceptance creates a legal liability for the school district, above and beyond it being wrong. You mention that zero tolerance laws prevent punishment of the aggressor - how so? I am not following that. I do get that you can be equally punished for defending yourself by the school, while the law looks on it as self defense and justified.
Also, why are teachers not able to do something about bullying behavior that is not physical? I see them reacting to that in lower grades, what changes at the HS?
Al Woods
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Well let me first off say that the culture off putting star athletes and athletes in general above the rules is NOT just a Dexter issue. Now, to answer your questions;
Would you say the issue got worse throughout the years or problematic all the way around?
--Since the enactment of the zero tolerance policy it has gotten worse. The reason is because with zero tolerance, comes zero action. The teachers become powerless to intervene before serious torment happens, and in the case of a physical altercations, you can not defend yourself or you are punished just as much as the aggressor. This leads to kids such as myself learning very early that teachers won't help, and the system is against you.
Do you think kids are afraid of school because of the bullies?
--Yes. Plain and simple. Our kids are being tormented daily and are powerless to stop it. Especially special needs students who don't have the capacity to fight back, whether it be physically or mentally. Let me clarify, I don't condone violence. But when it comes to defending yourself from merciless attack I condone doing what needs to be done. In the case of special needs students ESPECIALLY there needs to be more action taken by the teachers.
Hmmmm. I was going to make a comment about football and the culture and a specific person, but I won't go there.
--Well, I will go there. Ken. Keonig. If I knew then what I know now he would be in a jail cell.
DCS needs overhaul
8:38 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"You mention that zero tolerance laws prevent punishment of the aggressor - how so? I am not following that. I do get that you can be equally punished for defending yourself by the school, while the law looks on it as self defense and justified.
I remember a few years back my coworker showing me a video of a fight at DHS between 2 girls. The video showed her daughter jumping into the fight that had gone on FAR too long to try and intervene since her friend was being hurt. There was one teacher standing there with deer in the headlights look as if she was terrified and didn't know what to do. Administrators came to break up the fight but because my coworkers daughter involved herself by trying to stop it she too was suspended for over a week. We teach our kids to help others and not bully but then take the right away when it becomes physical. I think some teachers are afraid of the high school kids. I have one on my street that terrifies me and I work with teenagers. The zero tolerance policy makes no sense in situations like the example I provided. Either we teach kids to not bully and stand up for others or we don't. I think the kids are getting a very mixed message. I absolutely don’t condone violence, but when provoked or a child is constantly physically bullied why aren’t they allowed to defend themselves? How will the abuse ever stop?
DCS needs overhaul
8:38 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"Also, why are teachers not able to do something about bullying behavior that is not physical? I see them reacting to that in lower grades, what changes at the HS?"
Personally speaking I believe that younger children are easier to redirect. Telling a 6'2 225 pound football player to knock it off takes a pretty tough person. Then there is the whole issue of parents and how they react to the situation. Some families will be open to it and acknowledge their child acted poorly, whereas others will play the blame game and start threatening lawsuits or going to the school board, etc.
Laura Jones
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Makes sense, sadly. However, it is worth noting that the law is most clearly on the side of the victim, not the bully. To sue someone, you have to have valid standing. Pointing out someone's child is acting in a bullying manner, demanding changes in that behavior or actually claiming assault where it has occurred is none of it valid reason for suit by the parents of the bully. In fact it can create more legal problems for them. It's just another form of bullying taken at a higher level.
For my own part, I think it is worth noting that one's legal rights do not end at the classroom door. Nor does the law. At the high school level I can see teachers being wary of physical altercations - however they make excellent witnesses. Defending oneself from physical harm is a right, not a privilege and the law treats it that way. If you child is clearly defending themselves from a beating, it really does not matter what the school does or does not do - file an assault charge with the police immediately. I would advise my child to call 911 immediately (always have a cell phone) to report it (he who reports first is best believed in court) and have photo's taken of the injuries and record the names of everyone who saw it. If the school suspends the victim for defending themselves, file a complaint with the school board and then a civil suit. It's simply wrong. No one has a duty to take a beating - ever.
Shawn Letwin
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Al, my daughter was first subjected to the unfair handling of bullies by the administration when the bullying against her started in 6th grade. The bullying she has endured from that point forward continued in many forms and from those that were her classmates, teachers, school board members and other staff; and most certainly some fellow athletes and their parents until she graduated.
As I stated, bullying continued for our entire family by many of the same people and others.
To state the damages my daughter or my wife and I suffered in this public forum to validate our experience to you is our own business and I am truly sorry that you may not accept our perspective because we are not being more public about it.
As for the incident suffered by a teacher, the point that I tried to make is that some children have learned their bullying behavior from their parents. And as I stated earlier, there are plenty of bullies in administration, the teachers ranks and the same parents of the kids who are bullies.
And to "DCS needs overhaul", the empowering of the bullies does begin at a young age, and the lack of restraint by their helicopter parents is fostered by the K-2, 3-4, 4-6 building set up. Every year, the common refrain was..."don't speak up, just let it go so we don't have the teachers/admin causing more problems in "x" building for our daughter since she will be going to "y" building next year. The cycle repeated itself all the way thru high school.
DCS needs overhaul
8:38 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"And to "DCS needs overhaul", the empowering of the bullies does begin at a young age, and the lack of restraint by their helicopter parents is fostered by the K-2, 3-4, 4-6 building set up. Every year, the common refrain was..."don't speak up, just let it go so we don't have the teachers/admin causing more problems in "x" building for our daughter since she will be going to "y" building next year. The cycle repeated itself all the way thru high school."
This. My child has been told for years it's not really bullying, they are teasing you or just joking then lectured over the definition of bullying. By saying that, kids are now telling each other...."stupid loser why don't you learn how to spell.....kidding haha." So adding the "kidding...haha" makes it okay. Not really when it has been going on for years to a specific target that is powerless over these kids.
DCS needs overhaul
8:38 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"Al, my daughter was first subjected to the unfair handling of bullies by the administration when the bullying against her started in 6th grade. The bullying she has endured from that point forward continued in many forms and from those that were her classmates, teachers, school board members and other staff; and most certainly some fellow athletes and their parents until she graduated. "
I'm so sorry your daughter had to endure all this. It is hurtful, demeaning, damaging and certainly abusive. I hope she is doing well now that she has graduated and moved on. It's really sad. I have the same fears and I'm starting to see some of the same behaviors towards my kid now directed at me. At the incoming 7th graders meeting last night a group of my child’s peers walked by me as I was looking at the posters about bullying and said "that's so and so's mom...." Yes it is so and so's mom, how about saying hi so and so's mom or not saying anything at all. Yes I am so and so's mom....what's your point? May I help you with something or are you trying to intimidate me with your eye rolling and dirty looks like you do towards my child? Funny enough many of them were the same ones on social media bullying my child.
Shawn Letwin
8:38 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Dexter Mom, I made my calculations from the data presented. Homelessness increased by the tornado...yes, it would possibly explain the 5%. I don't have access to the raw data nor the basis of the calculation to see if it adjusted for temporary causes; much like seasonally adjusted unemployment rates.
With that said, sorry if I don't feel the need to spend more time responding to someone who cannot, or will not post on here using their real name.
Having substituted in all of the other districts in the county who have a homeless rate of less than 10%, most have kids who are under the Federal lunch program and also the program for breakfast. Dexter is an exception in not having a breakfast nor lunch program that you referenced. Yet the students achievements for the entire population does not correlate to the higher incomes...that is the point!
Nor does DCS seem to have any comprehensive programs to support the entire population in all of the other data points I have brought up. Insufficient counselor staffing, low overall state ranking not correlating with Dexter demographics, low PACT testing against national averages, at value education at only the 30th percentile. Yet more IB and AP classes
The turnover at the superintendent level is abysmal, as well as at the AD position, flip-flopping of semester formats, sudden resignation of IT director, oddity of the k-2, 3-4, 5-6 buildings, etc, it just doesn't add up.
The Dexter Difference!
DCS needs overhaul
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"With that said, sorry if I don't feel the need to spend more time responding to someone who cannot, or will not post on here using their real name."
In all fairness those of us that still have kids enrolled who are already the subjects and target of bullying will only get it worse if we go public with our names. I agree on your points about the turnover of staff and directors, teachers moving to different buildings, grade levels, etc. Then again maybe that is normal? I don't really know because we only have experience @ DCS. I work in another district however the sizes and demographics are like apples to oranges so I don't really have anything go by. I'm not a numbers person so can't speak to that but I know enough people have come out and said my special needs child has been bullied and faced problems. That is enough for me to know that there is a problem in this district and administration needs to figure it out. I'm surprised that there isn't more WISD intervention given the amount of complaints. I'm also surprise no state or federal special education complaints? As Laura Jones pointed out - this is a huge liability for the district and they should really get to the bottom of it.
Dexter Mom
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"With that said, sorry if I don't feel the need to spend more time responding to someone who cannot, or will not post on here using their real name."
Shawn, I admire you for using your name. I don't use my name because our family also was also ostracized over the bullying incidents of our high functioning but also special ed. student. When the school refused to punish the popular aggressors, we were forced to call on and confront the families of the students who were involved. Many said there child would never do such a thing, or when clearly caught said their child was provoked, several said they "had no idea" our child was a special needs student and if that was the case why did we have ours in with the regular kids, etc. etc. When I go to the grocery store, some parents will turn and go the other way if we are recognized. I have come to dislike living here but because of my husband's job we have chosen to stay and endure. I do also support the theory that some, but not all, parents are teaching their kids how to be aggressive towards weaker or "different" acting individuals. Unlike DHS graduate above, I am not willing to use my name in a public forum, but I do have an idea about how to enlighten and eventually change the bullying problem of special needs kids which I will post separately. I would love hear feedback on the proposal from you all.
DCS needs overhaul
2:31 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I have to LOL at the grocery store comment! You have no idea how many times I've run into someone and you can tell they are dodging us or trying to avoid eye contact. It's as if they were saying "ugh there goes that family...." I have also heard comments from other parents questioning why these kids are mainstreamed as if what they have might rub off on their perfect Jesus like children. If only they knew what was happening on social media behind secret clubs that only members can see. Sigh.
Dexter Mom
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
"Just remember that, "bullys pick on those that are different." says Child Psychologist Dr.David Walsh. Whether those kids are special needs, AP/IB, or 3rd string athletes; the schools, and parents have an obligation to keep the students safe. ncpc.org/topics/cyber-bullying and http://drdavewalsh.com/
I propose a new school-wide, all grades, form of in-school 7th grade camp where students are taught that these high functioning ASD kids are special, funny, socially awkward, unique, difficult, annoying, frustrating, have learning difficulties but can also be brilliant or gifted in other ways.
Dexter Mom
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
At the beginning of each school year in all buildings of Dexter schools, and on the buses, they have a special needs awareness week. Each parent of, and mainstreamed child with, special issues would have the opportunity to be identified and talk to their peer groups, (or remain anonymous if that is more comfortable), about what is difficult for them as well as what they are really great at. Then for the whole SKAW week every lesson, whether it is reading, history, art, math, science, music, or sports, the lessons should involve the special needs topic. There should be schools assemblies where special PhD's. and social workers who have knowledge and experience in the field give presentations to all staff, administration, and all students on what it is like, things that help, and especially things that hurt these kids who are now approx. 1 in every 7 or 8 children in every class. Real people with challenges such as Temple Grandin might even come to talk, and her movie could be shown in the higher grades. If necessary a grant could be written for the special funding of these speakers and professional education programs. The school could begin a buddy program where the empathetic kids could form groups for study, class transitions, and support throughout the school day to keep these kids safe and on track in a positive way. There is SO much we could do to help and aren't yet doing.
Dexter Mom
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
What do you all think of the special kids awareness week? Would it cut down on bullying and help these kids graduate and go on to have a successful productive life in the community? This should be the Dexter Difference!
DCS needs overhaul
2:31 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I LOVE your ideas Dexter Mom! I think that is a wonderful start. I have also wondered why they don't do the buddy-to-buddy program or involve the NHS students needing community service to come into the schools and eat lunch with these kids, spend time talking about school, anything is better than nothing. http://www.challengeday.org/challenge-day-program.php I have heard wonderful things about this program. You are correct that there is so much we should be doing to address the problem.
Sean
2:31 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
How about instead making some of these kids aware that if you ball up your hand and throw it at who's bullying you, chances are they'll leave you alone?
DCS needs overhaul
5:08 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
In some cases I agree. The youtube video that went viral (can't remember when) of the group of kids physically kicking and hitting another boy. Boy finally had enough and let the ring leader know it. I don't like violence but in that situation the boy had no other choice but to defend himself from the number of attackers. In Michigan thanks to zero-tolerance that boy would have likely been expelled. For what? He wasn't doing anything but trying to mind his own business when the other kids started physically beating him. Then again we took the fear out of parenting and any sort of authority figures. Kids lack respect and that healthy fear of mom/dad and authority figures, and the punishment to follow. All it took was the look from my mom or dad and I knew I was busted. Now we’ve created disrespectful intolerant little people that rely on apps and gadgets to get them through life.
Dexter Mom
5:08 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
In this town that will get you a permanent police record of aggravated assault and handcuffed at every routine traffic stop for the rest of that ASD bullied kid's life, regardless of whether they are carrying a "Caution Do Not Restrain" ASD identifying card next to their drivers license, which indicates that they may freak out if physically restrained. Oh and on every job application they will also have to disclose a criminal record, even though the judges usually just give them probation. Bad idea Sean. Better to get a body guard or some really big buddies to hang with....
Sean
8:28 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I may be a little out of the loop but since when do you get a police record for getting into a little fight as a juvenile?
Dexter Mom
9:51 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Sean, that happens when Dexter calls in the local law enforcement agencies and tells the victim, (who is actually the bully that got pounded because he wouldn't stop bullying and inciting the rest of his goons to do so as well), that they are well within their right to press charges, and the school sheriff liaison goes right along with it because he can't be informed be school admin. that the bullied boy that snapped was ASD and had been taking months of abuse. "The law is the law and if you retaliate and someone gets hurt you can be arrested." Apparently in this town the prosecuting attorneys will take these cases and use them to put another feather in their caps and a chunk of change in their wallets. Oh, and the band of goons will stick together on their stories to make sure it looks unprovoked. Too bad the real victim didn't have an older brother.......
Sean
8:28 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Also, I only would suggest using force against force as a last resort. I did not state that in my first post although I meant to. I also didn't state that growing up as the older brother of an autistic boy I saw plenty of bullying and threatened many a punk kid in my time.
DCS needs overhaul
10:41 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Thankfully Sean your brother had you around! :) I fear for the kids that don't have siblings. I am seeing too many kids that think it's funny to tease, mock, bully those with special needs. Nothing is funny about it. In fact it is repulsive behavior that as a parent I would be horrified if one of my kids were involved with.
DCS needs overhaul
10:41 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
http://www.michiganallianceforfamilies.org/disability-specific-info/attention-deficit-disorder/
http://www.michiganallianceforfamilies.org/disability-specific-info/asperger-syndrome/
http://www.michiganallianceforfamilies.org/disability-specific-info/autism-spectrum-disorder/
http://www.michiganallianceforfamilies.org/disability-specific-info/emotional-impairment-ei/
@George Eliot. Please review the all the symptoms and behaviors related to these impairments we are discussing. It is not uncommon for any of these kids to have a meltdown, especially when they are continually bullied or picked on. It’s not fair to lump all special needs kids in with one who committed horrific acts that we still don’t have all the facts on. Each child and their history is different and unique. Administration should also take into consideration the amount of support or parental involvement in each case to know how to react. Many of these kids make inappropriate comments because that is part of the disorder they have. They can’t help it. Most of them are more of a threat to themselves than anyone else. Calling the police on a middle schooler seems a bit dramatic especially if student was not carrying any sort of weapon or hurting others. If it was a just a meltdown police restraint and involvement is the worst case scenario. Again, some of us remain anonymous because we have already felt ostracized and judged by the community regarding our kids.
Dexter Mom
11:43 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
DCS the sheriff was called after the fact, not in response to break up a situation, and someone did get a little hurt, but not serious or lasting. The sheriff's job was to write up a report and file it as well as to "scare" the ASD kid. It happened more than once in different circumstances and was the mode of operation at the time in Mill Creek, and in the HS. A prosecuting attorney for Washtenaw county picked up the file, 7 months after the fact, and thought it would be an easy win in court. The anguish my son felt over that ordeal almost killed him, literally. He had to be watched 24/7 by trained staff in a private therapeutic facility before they could get him turned around. Cost us a fortune and almost cost him his life. He's OK now, still getting therapy, but he'll never be the same after having endured this and he doesn't trust anyone now. He lives with a full time video security camera and a baseball bat by his door. Thank you Dexter Schools.
Sean
12:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
This might sound terrible but if your son was that fragile to where this situation almost literally killed him and now he sleeps with a bat and a security camera, not to mention all the therapy to get him back to ok, maybe he should've been in aprivate schooling setting to begin with? Just a thought. I'm certainly sympathetic to your situation but maybe that would've been better for him? Or maybe that wasn't even an option.
Dexter Mom
3:52 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
In hindsight I wish we could have done that earlier. We did take him out of DCS eventually and our settlement was enough to pay for his private schooling. My son was not fragile until all the bullying happened. Had it not been for the bullying, he would have been fine, and was doing fine in between incidents but the accumulation was too much to process and we didn't realize he was under so much pressure. He did not tell us about much of it until after the fact because of threats to him that it would become much worse for him.
DCS needs overhaul
3:52 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I cannot speak to Dexter Mom's son but I know for my own child they don't process traumatic events like the atypical child. Given the amount of bullying and taunting these kids go through, my child’s medical team feels most of them also suffer with PTSD on top of the already determined disorders. Life for them is very difficult just having any of these disorders. Other kids don't understand because to them child looks no different so why do they behave so strangely? As for private school, some of us don't have 10-20k per year. The government does not provide education vouchers therefore our tax dollars go to supporting DCS so that is where we go. With special needs kids there are no perfect schools or solutions, however DCS can do much more to create a tolerant non-bullying environment.
Dexter Mom
12:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Through middle and high school, the tormenting from the bullies came from the star athletes. That is where the biggest problems are and where the school should focus most. In our case a teacher's son and football player was a ringleader, hence the school's reluctance to punish the tormentors. Fortunately that teacher and student are now gone. I'd like to think that things are better now, having made it our mission to increase awareness and change things, but I am still in contact with parents who are having troubles with the swim teams, both men and women's, and also problems with the school's treatment of attempted suicidal students who are trying to complete homework or return to school after hospitalization. These kids are another huge target and they aren't being given EI status under 504c's or IEP's despite having been hospitalized with full psych. evaluation records to work from. We have a support group of parents of these kids, who have to withdraw from Dexter and go elsewhere for more compassionate education services, and the Board of education has their heads in the sand insisting there isn't a problem, because those parents also need to protect their children from both the schools and the community and can't go "on record". Again I am promoting Mainstreamed Special Kids Awareness Week as a positive, proactive, approach to fixing Dexter Schools which are getting a horrible reputation throughout all the private providers of professional mental health services.
DCS needs overhaul
3:52 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
“We have a support group of parents of these kids, who have to withdraw from Dexter and go elsewhere for more compassionate education services, and the Board of education has their heads in the sand insisting there isn't a problem, because those parents also need to protect their children from both the schools and the community and can't go "on record".
Is this an established group? How does one contact this group to be included? I would like to have discussions with other parents in similar situations so I can make the best decision for my child’s education. I have heard many complaints over the years about DHS and the bullying problem. However aa.com published a story about the soccer team having a DS team manager and they allowed him to play a game. Perhaps those kids of the soccer team can reach out to other sports teams and help combat the problem? I continue to hear about bullying from athletes. Have coaches been made aware of this problem? I realize the revolving door of AD’s probably plays a role in that as well. Most leagues and governing bodies of sports now have bullying policies in place however violations have to be reported. I can’t imagine a coach in the district I work ignoring a complaint or proof from a parent that one of their athletes was bullying. Where I work it would be immediate suspension and possible removal from the team depending on the situation. Curious why the culture in Dexter so different about this?
Dexter Mom
12:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
"Gov. Rick Snyder ordered a multi-departmental assessment of the state's services and needs regarding at-risk children, school security, and mental health that will hopefully lead to more answers and better safeguards." We need this at DCS and more, instead of another International Baccalaureate program for the elite few.
Dexter Mom
9:09 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
@DCS needs overhaul, "Is this an established group? How does one contact this group to be included?" We have been meeting about once a month for 2+ years, it is a very private group which does not reveal names, details, or information about members to anyone else outside the group since they are all in or recovering from severe family crisis and need their privacy. We were all quietly invited by another member who recognized our distress either at the hospital, or in other places and offered to help. There is however a more formal group called Parent Professional Suicide Support Team which is run by the U of M and meets monthly at the Rachael Upjohn Depression Center. This volunteer committee deals with all aspects of psychiatric treatment, not just suicide issues, and consists of ongoing patients, parents of patients, hospital administrators, doctors and nurses. It is very open to comments from parents and hospital staff are open to many of our suggestions including the sharing of information about community resources. Contact them first.
"I can’t imagine a coach in the district I work ignoring a complaint or proof from a parent that one of their athletes was bullying." That is why there are several coaches who no longer coach at Dexter, and a few more that should be let go.
DCS needs overhaul
8:40 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I respect the needs of privacy of the group. Sadly many of us here are also facing the same crisis but we'll have to face it alone. I'm curious about whether or not any of this has been reported to the compliance officer at WISD and if a state or federal violation complaint was filed?
Dexter Mom
10:49 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
It was reported but WISD was of little help, preferring instead to protect the schools in the district rather than the students. They did advise us of our options to use an advocate, and legal assistance, while pointing out that, while we might have a decent case, a state or Fed. Civil Liberties complaint could take months, even years, to sort out while putting an ASD/EI kid in the public spotlight. We declined a civil suit, and found that the spec ed. lawyer we hired worked very well behind the scenes and quietly got things accomplished quicker. If you are serious about the private support group you might email Daniel Lai and he can forward your contact info so I can give it our NAMI trained group facilitator.
Daniel Lai
9:01 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Check out this story. Dexter resident Brent Courson is reaching out to the community to gauge interest in a virtual sailing program for special needs students, http://patch.com/A-1DHD